Idem etiam dolorem saepe perpetiuntur, ne, si id non faciant, incidant in maiorem. Audeo dicere, inquit.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cupit enim dícere nihil posse ad beatam vitam deesse sapienti. Itaque et manendi in vita et migrandi ratio omnis iis rebus, quas supra dixi, metienda. An vero, inquit, quisquam potest probare, quod perceptfum, quod. Restant Stoici, qui cum a Peripateticis et Academicis omnia transtulissent, nominibus aliis easdem res secuti sunt. Vestri haec verecundius, illi fortasse constantius. Duo Reges: constructio interrete.

Magna laus. Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum. Duae sunt enim res quoque, ne tu verba solum putes. Quid est igitur, inquit, quod requiras? Videmusne ut pueri ne verberibus quidem a contemplandis rebus perquirendisque deterreantur? Beatus sibi videtur esse moriens. Egone non intellego, quid sit don Graece, Latine voluptas? De vacuitate doloris eadem sententia erit.

Ita prorsus, inquam; Non laboro, inquit, de nomine. Sin kakan malitiam dixisses, ad aliud nos unum certum vitium consuetudo Latina traduceret. Quamquam te quidem video minime esse deterritum. O magnam vim ingenii causamque iustam, cur nova existeret disciplina! Perge porro. Negat enim summo bono afferre incrementum diem.

Tum Torquatus: Prorsus, inquit, assentior; Quarum ambarum rerum cum medicinam pollicetur, luxuriae licentiam pollicetur. Sic enim censent, oportunitatis esse beate vivere. Videmusne ut pueri ne verberibus quidem a contemplandis rebus perquirendisque deterreantur? Quodcumque in mentem incideret, et quodcumque tamquam occurreret. Ergo id est convenienter naturae vivere, a natura discedere.

Quodsi ipsam honestatem undique pertectam atque absolutam. Scientiam pollicentur, quam non erat mirum sapientiae cupido patria esse cariorem. Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio. Universa enim illorum ratione cum tota vestra confligendum puto.

Nam diligi et carum esse iucundum est propterea, quia tutiorem vitam et voluptatem pleniorem efficit. Varietates autem iniurasque fortunae facile veteres philosophorum praeceptis instituta vita superabat. Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla expectata nec quaesita voluptate. Quid iudicant sensus? Est autem a te semper dictum nec gaudere quemquam nisi propter corpus nec dolere. Semovenda est igitur voluptas, non solum ut recta sequamini, sed etiam ut loqui deceat frugaliter. Paulum, cum regem Persem captum adduceret, eodem flumine invectio? Sin dicit obscurari quaedam nec apparere, quia valde parva sint, nos quoque concedimus; Ego quoque, inquit, didicerim libentius si quid attuleris, quam te reprehenderim. Bona autem corporis huic sunt, quod posterius posui, similiora.

Nisi autem rerum natura perspecta erit, nullo modo poterimus sensuum iudicia defendere. Atque haec coniunctio confusioque virtutum tamen a philosophis ratione quadam distinguitur. Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus.

Ne in odium veniam, si amicum destitero tueri. Nec vero sum nescius esse utilitatem in historia, non modo voluptatem. Vide igitur ne non debeas verbis nostris uti, sententiis tuis. Si longus, levis dictata sunt. Atqui iste locus est, Piso, tibi etiam atque etiam confirmandus, inquam; Huic mori optimum esse propter desperationem sapientiae, illi propter spem vivere.

Theophrastus mediocriterne delectat, cum tractat locos ab Aristotele ante tractatos? Atque haec coniunctio confusioque virtutum tamen a philosophis ratione quadam distinguitur. Immo alio genere; Est igitur officium eius generis, quod nec in bonis ponatur nec in contrariis. Quid sequatur, quid repugnet, vident. Nondum autem explanatum satis, erat, quid maxime natura vellet.

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